The big interview

Will Islam soon rule in our country, Mr. Güngör?

Sociologist and integration expert Kenan Güngör (55)

(Bild: Groh Klemens/klemens groh)

Wolf salutes at the European Championships, Islamic parties, more Muslim than Christian children in Vienna's elementary school: Where is all this leading? Sociologist and integration expert Kenan Güngör (55) talks about scenarios and strategies, the drifting center, the power word "no" and myths such as the 72 virgins waiting for God's warriors in paradise.

Saturday morning in the "Aura" café on Vienna's Reumannplatz, like most of the pubs here firmly in Turkish hands. Kenan Güngör is always drawn here because he can get a taste of Turkey, which he is not allowed to enter as a critic of Erdogan. The "Krone" interview is his last appointment before his summer vacation. I ask him about the stabbings that have recently made headlines. "Here in Favoriten, the climate has always been a bit rougher due to the many immigrants," he says, "the question is always whether it will change." This is also the big question in politics and in our conversation. The Turkish-born, Kurdish social scientist answers it in very cultivated, calm High German, even if the current issues are causing a lot of unrest among the population.

"Krone": When you come here from the city center on the U1, it feels like you're entering a parallel world. Do you understand the fears of many people that Muslims will soon be in the majority in our society?